Here’s where we’re headed. Let’s see if we can read some double standards from gender-feminist comments regarding the latest in French litigation…..
Jail Time For French Women Who Berate Husbands
Record cold temperatures are beginning to take their toll on average citizens around the world. In bone-chilled France, frustrated housewives have taken to venting their spleens at their husbands — and for good reason.
For decades, effete French men have indulged themselves with aerosol hair spray for their over-groomed hairpieces, contributing, as we all know, to the thinning of the ozone layer and melting of the polar ice caps.
Now the debonair men are taking the heat.
Thankfully, the epidemic of shrieking wives has not escaped the attention of the ever-vigilant French Parliament, which is now considering a ban on the practice. The law would apply to both married and cohabiting couples.
Support reaches to the highest political levels. Announcing the proposed law last week, French premier Francois Fillon explained, “The creation of this offence will allow us to deal with the most insidious situations — situations that leave no visible scars, but which leave victims torn up inside.”Repeat perpetrators of “psychological violence” would be subject to electronic tagging, Fillon warned.
Under the new politeness regime, any use of power and control tactics will be subject to state intervention. Garden-variety nagging will be passé. Honey-do lists will be illégal. And women will think twice before inquiring about amorous liaisons, since false allegations of infidelity will also be barred.
Soon-to-be-illegal put-downs also include “Vous avez le cervau d’un sandwich au fromage” (You have the brain of a cheese sandwich) and “T’as une tête a faire sauter les plaques d’egouts” (You’ve got a face that would blow off manhole covers).
Many were delighted with the prospect of re-engineering the prickly French personality. The French gendarme, weary from tracking down elusive tax cheats and al-Qaeda operatives, was buoyed by the news. And middle-aged men mired in stale marriages now have a respectable way out.
The new proposal has its skeptics, of course.
Psychologist Anne Giraud worries that “Squabbling couples will allege all kinds of things about each other, but they won’t necessarily be true.” Psychiatrist Marie-France Hirigoyen is likewise “cautious” because the law could be easily misused.
Sociologist Piere Bonnet frets, “Next they will be making rudeness a crime, and the police and courts will be overrun with work.” Many wonder how a procureur, lacking hard evidence of abuse, would prosecute an accused scofflaw.
And some recall when actress Brigitte Bardot was fined $6,000 for violating the French hate-crimes law when she made impolitic statements about the looming influence of radical Islam.
Thanks to the new law, millions of French women will end up spending time behind bars. But it will be for their own good. And once we put an end to the spate of psychological violence, we can move on to other pressing problems like raised eyebrows, annoying grimaces, and unsympathetic stares.
6 responses so far ↓
1 survivor // Jan 15, 2010 at 1:24 pm
John, for the record … K&L Gates is not in any way affiliated with the Domestic Violence Initiative. I participate in the DVI as an invited representative of TAG (which is also K&L Gates client). As a K&L Gates employee, I receive an employee discount on copying and conference calling. I would pay those costs myself if the DVI requested those services (which it has not), but I prefer not to “advertise” that I would be “donating” personal funds since it might discourage the DVI from taking advantage of my generosity. Conference rooms at the firm are also available to many groups who serve the community upon the invitation of firm employees.
Please do NOT call my cell phone again.
In my opinion, no legitimate domestic violence victim or victim advocate would blame another violence victim for their trauma as you did on the phone this morning by saying that my daughter’s injuries where her fault because she “picked the guy.” I, therefore, totally question your credibility and I am not interested in having a conversation with somebody I cannot trust.
I have learned other things about your history recently which I will not post here. But it only confirms that you have a hidden agenda.
Based on your comments to me and your posts on this blog, I believe that you are not interested in supporting male victims. Rather you are interested in hurting female victims.
Do not attempt to contact me again.
2 jlukas // Jan 15, 2010 at 5:19 pm
Trese:
I didn’t even know it was your cell phone. It was a number that I obtained via public disclosure that you were using for state programs as listed in that document.
You don’t have to be so defensive. I called a number that is listed in that public record and was obtained through public disclosure. If you don’t want it in there, I suggest that you don’t use it for public sponsored activities.
And, I also suggest that you don’t start with the false accusations as you have above. In no way did I even come remotely to suggesting the trickery you listed above.
But, I CAN state that your daughter was YOUR justification when you became uncomfortable with my questions over your denial of ANY KL Gates involvement here. As I recall, you stated that you did this on your own time yesterday, then threw your daughter up there as a block when I stated what was on that public record. You know, the use of KL Gates IT Department, their copying machines, which in your words, were “far superior to Kinko’s”, etc.
I then told you that I would LIKE to trust what comes out of your mouth. You didn’t like the level of accountability that I was asking for as you knew you lied to me yesterday about not only that, but the total lack of the mention of men in the most recent DVI conference that you helped to put together, along with KL Gates’s help, PER YOUR OWN WORDS.
I can understand why you no longer wish to speak to me as you know. But, if you would like to post anything about me, have at it. As I have often told you, I have nothing to hide and there are always two sides to a story. As for how you got that information, it also may be a violation of not only ethics, but statute as well, which is commonplace within the DV Industry that makes up the rules to suit themselves, as you have done here.
All I ask of you is accountability. You have voided that. You said one thing and did just the opposite.
We actually share a commonality here. We are both victims. One enjoys status and is called a “hero”, and “brave”, the other is “criminal”. I welcome you questioning my past.
And, now that I this is a true two way street, let’s get down to it, shall we? You started this two months ago by crashing this website with your agenda and I welcome that. I believe in free speech, no games.
I will start out by posting those public documents and letting all involved here decide for themselves if what you stated about KL Gates is true or not, as all of these activities were done in their office, and on their time, including all of your posts within the past few months, with the exception of the evening posts, which came from somewhere other than KL Gates.
We do IP tracking here and like to know whom we’re dealing with. We do PDR’s to find out who is visiting and showing interest. We do that all of the time, not just with you. So, in that regard, you’re just another government entity that we deal with, nothing special. ANY credence of fear that you are trying to fabricate here is on you.
All you have to do is ask.
And for the record, I’m concerned with ALL victims. Gender is not within any “agenda” I have. You need to stop assuming and start asking. That begins with me. I assume that through your past activities on this website, that you would have already gotten that as a few female posters spoke on my behalf directly to you concerning your abusive behavior that you apologized for.
In short, stop playing the victim here when there is none.
WADVPress
3 The Geezer // Jan 15, 2010 at 5:53 pm
Why don’t you children get a life, or a room, or whatever.
KLGates donates lots of stuff, and it appears to include staff time, no prob.
The KINGCO prosecutor is supposed to be neutral, but drinks the Kool-Aid, does not tell the truth, and has no issue whatsoever about solving what is a human problem, a problem of socialization, laws that require arrest when that may not be the best course of action, and for certain an action that destroys families, not nourishes them, and dooms thousands of kids to being in single parent families, and all the social pathologies that brings on them, according to stats and facts that even the DV industry does not dispute.
Nice to see two passionate folks exchanging views here. Please keep it from becoming a pissing contest, keep the attacks “on the industry” not personal, boldly proclaim the political agenda that operates here, it is not about violence, but political power, and political control, in a gender biased system.
The Geez, also a DV victim, but we didn’t call it that then, and I am glad the laws were not in place, as it would have broken up two families.
4 jlukas // Jan 15, 2010 at 6:32 pm
I know. Why the vehement denials here?
The IP says KL Glates.
survivor says Kl Gates, then denies it.
The statement says KL Gates IT Department and copy machines and brags about how much better they are than Kinko’s.
The time and date stamps were during work time with an IP of KL Gates.
Kinda makes me wonder what else is being denied here.
Accountability. Geez… If we could get one tenth of accountability from these people that they demand from their subjects, we might actually make some progress here.
5 Snoco Sum Biatch // Jan 16, 2010 at 2:19 am
In fact, didn’t the statement say that she got some work done extra quick because her boss stepped into a conference.
Geez, gotta sneek around the office these days at KL Gates I guess.
John – I agree. Survivor has an agenda of her own. She is disengenuous with her statements, and actually acts like a DV perp the way she goes on the attack.
Debates are fine, but when someone needs to start making negative inflated statements about someone else, they have issues.
Survivor has issues. I’d love to see how she would come out of the DV Perp class.
BTW, I’m a DV Victim, got the scars and restraining order to prove it. She got off with no punishment, but she got the kids.
6 Mariner // Jan 17, 2010 at 3:39 pm
Wow survivor, you’re back – with another load of drivel.
Whether your daughters injuries were her fault or not, they simply shouldn’t have happened. Sadly we don’t live in Utopia so we make choices, some turn out good, some bad. I have to make the point though, fathers are often pretty good at picking out unsuitable partners for their daughters and advising them to stay away from them. BUT wait, this is the evil patriarchy coming into play and every woman has the RIGHT to make a choice right? Your daughter made a bad one, I wonder if you had remained married long enough, if she would have still done so? It always did amaze me how many girls pick out the “bad boys” with the idea they can somehow “change them.” I guess with so many absent fathers in their lives, so many mistakes are made.
In fact survivor, men are victims of so many misandriast polices, take a look at this one;
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1243625/Businessman-Mirko-Fischer-sues-British-Airwars-treating-men-like-perverts.html
BA used to be my airline of choice, not any more. Though nothing like that has happened to me, I have no intention of letting it happen to me. Now I say this man is a victim, what would you say?
“no legitimate domestic violence victim or victim advocate would blame another violence victim for their trauma”
Do you know why this is survivor? It’s because only the female is recognized as the victim, therefore there is no other victim to blame. Of course this becomes a difficult issue when both DV victims are female because neither, according to the DV industry, can be violent.
“I believe that you are not interested in supporting male victims. Rather you are interested in hurting female victims.”
You seem to have the agenda here survivor and your attempts at trying shaming tactics are pitiful. I see nothing wrong in attacking misandrist policies and laws that are unjust and discriminate against men unfairly. Nothing I have seen on this site suggests there is a hidden agenda of hurting female victims.
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